Cask Policy

[Ralph Katzenell]

Thanks Thomas. To the point, and great photos. The cask numbering implies that Glenmorangie know the provenance of their casks. And it states quite clearly "Bourbon Whiskey". Can I use that photo in an upcoming presentation? Got any more like it?

I got a sneaking feeling that they are at the leading edge of the industry in this.

UR


----- Original Message -----
From: Thomas Sundblom <thomas at SUNDBLOM.SE>
Date: Tuesday, June 13, 2006 12:39 pm
Subject: Re: K - Bourbon Whisky and Contentious Content Warning

> Ralph.
> 
> Usually the industry has no real background facts about their 
> casks. They have their deals with different suppliers in the 
> States to get a hugh amount of casks. Although it would be 
> possible to track each cask that is not knocked down since they do 
> have information eighter burned into or stamped on them, in a 
> simliar way as the Scottish industry did with their painted cask 
> ends (they tend to move to barcodes nowadays). But i'm quite sure 
> that they don't do that except for a very limited number of casks.
> It's very few producers that really has an idea about the 
> condition of the cask they are about to fill. But, there are a few 
> companies, usually smaller, that try hard to have a cask policy. 
> Even some independant bottlers who buys new make are keen on 
> having their own , well known, casks filled with newmake.
> 
> I have made two pictures available that you can look at:
> http://www.sundblom.se/temp/BourbonCaskPICT0838.jpg
> http://www.sundblom.se/temp/BourbonCaskPICT0839.jpg
> They both shows casks that is to be filled at Glenmorangie some 
> years ago.
> 
> 
> Cheers
> 
> __________________________________________________________
> Thomas Sundblom
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Ralph Katzenell" <ralphoosh at 012.NET.IL>
> To: <MALTS-L at LISTS.UNI-KARLSRUHE.DE>
> Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2006 12:05 PM
> Subject: Re: K - Bourbon Whisky and Contentious Content Warning
> 
> 
> Thomas.
> 
> Yup! What you say seems right to me. But it is not the core point 
> that I am trying to chase down. Which is, do the casks/staves, 
> known to be from the seven American whiskies that did not have 
> additives, have an unambigious audit trail separate from 
> casks/staves that previously held bourbon with additives? 
> 
> Of interest as it relates to the products for the great unwashed, 
> knocking back their blended Johhnie Walkers, and Bells this and 
> that, trailing their knuckles on the ground as they stagger from 
> pillar to post after a hard Saturday bevying and scoffing soggy 
> fish and chips. Do the really big mass production processes know 
> the exact provenance of each cask? And even if they do, what 
> practical effect on filling processes does this have at the 
> Caledonian end of the whisky trail? 
> 
> And just for a moment, a pause to ponder on our lovely end of the 
> market. If it says "Bourbon" casked, does anyone know if this 
> means casked from one of the magnificent seven, or could the cask 
> also perhaps be from the dirty two and a half dozen?
> 
> Questions! Questions!.
> 
> Another one has just this very minute ocurred to me. When the 
> marketeers assure us that the cask was "Bourbon", what do they 
> REALLY mean? Which of the Super Seven come under that word?
> 
> Ooooh! A general, non-K, non-Kontroversial Komment topic !!
> 
> Go for it, lads.
> 
> Uncle Ralph
> 
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