[MM-MALTS-L] CELP & seaweed

Michel van Meersbergen michel at msgvm.nl
Thu Aug 30 12:30:00 CEST 2007


Well, I'm the last to claim to have any botanical knowledge, 'tough I do
enjoy 'plants and trees' in general. As a child I did have interest in
goldfish or micro-koy's. Lasted sometimes not longer than 24 hours due to
parasites et all comming from the waterweed I took from ponds because my
pocketmoney wouldn't allow for some 'proper' waterweed...

Anyway, I didn't want to put the PR and marketing so bluntly, but you're
right: "Celp, The Warm Fuzzy Feeling Experience"

Michel


op 30-08-2007 12:15 schreef Kraaijeveld A.R. op A.R.Kraaijeveld at soton.ac.uk:

> There are other species of seaweed, which are not solid sheets. So I
> guess marketing was more important than honesty in this case. Suggest
> the bottle contains seaweed and hope no one with a bit of botanical
> knowledge will notice that it what's in the bottle has nothing to do
> with seaweed ....
> 
> 
> slainte, Lex
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> Fly, you greatest fool
> Why can't you say what they want you to
> Why can't you do what they taught you
> And show what they wanted of you
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> Dr Alex R Kraaijeveld
> School of Biological Sciences
> University of Southampton
> Bassett Crescent East
> Southampton
> SO16 7PX
> United Kingdom
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: mm-malts-l-bounces at grsnet.net
> [mailto:mm-malts-l-bounces at grsnet.net] On Behalf Of Michel van
> Meersbergen
> Sent: 30 August 2007 11:04
> To: MaltManiacs operated former 'MALT-L' Whisky List
> Subject: Re: [MM-MALTS-L] CELP & seaweed
> 
> Lex,
> 
> I'm affraid true celp wouldn't look as 'fancy' as whatever Elodea they
> have
> put into the bottle. Just a vegetal green and rubbery 'sheet'. Celp
> leaves
> can be quite big.
> 
> For sure Van Wees/Ultimate outweirded Blackadder when it comes to solid
> additives. :-)
> 
> Michel
> 
> P.s. No offense Rob!
> 
> 
> op 30-08-2007 11:52 schreef Kraaijeveld A.R. op
> A.R.Kraaijeveld at soton.ac.uk:
> 
>> Hi Michel
>> 
>> Yes, 'waterpest' is exactly what I mean. I don't want to get into a
>> botanical discussion as to whether it's Elodea densa or Elodea
>> canadensis, because the two species are not always easy to tell apart.
>> What's important is that it appears that "Celp - The Seaweed
> Experience"
>> does not contain any seaweed whatsoever.
>> 
>>  
>> slainte, Lex
>>  
>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>> 
>> Fly, you greatest fool
>> Why can't you say what they want you to
>> Why can't you do what they taught you
>> And show what they wanted of you
>>        
>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>  
>> Dr Alex R Kraaijeveld
>> School of Biological Sciences
>> University of Southampton
>> Bassett Crescent East
>> Southampton
>> SO16 7PX
>> United Kingdom
>> tel: (+44)-(0)23-80593436
>> fax: (+44)-(0)23-80594459
>> http://www.sbs.soton.ac.uk/staff/ark/ark.php
>>  
>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>  
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: mm-malts-l-bounces at grsnet.net
>> [mailto:mm-malts-l-bounces at grsnet.net] On Behalf Of Michel van
>> Meersbergen
>> Sent: 30 August 2007 09:51
>> To: MaltManiacs operated former 'MALT-L' Whisky List
>> Subject: Re: [MM-MALTS-L] CELP & seaweed
>> 
>> Hi Lex,
>> 
>> I had the same reservations when I saw the bottle for the first time.
>> It's
>> certainly not celp inside the bottle, I have it as Elodea canadensis
>> ('waterpest' as we say in Holland).
>> 
>> AFAIK all the celp bottles have waterweed inside them.
>> 
>> Best!
>> 
>> Michel
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> op 30-08-2007 10:31 schreef Kraaijeveld A.R. op
>> A.R.Kraaijeveld at soton.ac.uk:
>> 
>>> Hi all
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> I got a bottle of "CELP - Seaweed Experience" for a tasting I'll be
>>> running at the university later this year. For those who have never
>>> heard of this one, it's either a young Lagavulin or a vatting of
>>> Lagavulin and Laphroaig to which seaweed is added. So legally it's
> not
>>> whisky anymore and the label doesn't claim that it is.
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> The spirit is clearly greenish and there is a twig of a plant
> floating
>>> in the bottle (bottle won't be opened until the tasting). Now as soon
>> as
>>> I saw the twig, I got suspicious. To me, the plant which is floating
>> in
>>> the bottle looks remarkably like Common or Brazilian Waterweed, which
>> is
>>> a very common freshwater plant. Does not grow in the sea and is not a
>>> seaweed by any stretch of the (botanical) imagination. I've attached
> a
>>> small picture of this plant and I'm asking those of you who have/had
> a
>>> bottle of CELP to tell me whether the plant inside the bottle looks
>> like
>>> the plant in the picture. Just so I know whether all CELP bottles
>>> contain waterweed rather than a seaweed or whether there ARE indeed
>> CELP
>>> bottles with (possible) seaweed.
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> slainte, Lex
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Fly, you greatest fool
>>> Why can't you say what they want you to
>>> Why can't you do what they taught you
>>> And show what they wanted of you
>>>        
>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Dr Alex R Kraaijeveld
>>> 
>>> School of Biological Sciences
>>> 
>>> University of Southampton
>>> 
>>> Bassett Crescent East
>>> 
>>> Southampton
>>> 
>>> SO16 7PX
>>> 
>>> United Kingdom
>>> 
>>> tel: (+44)-(0)23-80593436
>>> 
>>> fax: (+44)-(0)23-80594459
>>> 
>>> http://www.sbs.soton.ac.uk/staff/ark/ark.php
>>> <http://www.sbs.soton.ac.uk/staff/ark/ark.php>
>>> 
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