[MM-MALTS-L] Slyrs

Tue Jul 31 12:38:58 CEST 2007

Hi Lex, Horst,

You raise interesting points.  When it comes to American whisky - even
some of the finest - the name of the whisky often comes from the
flavour, not from the actual plant it was produced in.  For example, a
bottle of Jack Daniels (not one of the finest) may be contain whisky
from either or both of two distilleries (if I remember correctly).

Davin

On 7/31/07, Horst Luening <luening at dr-luening.de> wrote:
> Completely agreed.
>
> How will the new Slyrs taste versus the old one? If you look at the Woodford
> Reserve, which was formerly produced in the column stills of Early Times and
> now comes from Pot Stills comparable to the ones of Auchentoshan, then you
> can imagine, how delicate this problem is.
>
> The former Slyrs still was an eau de vie still with an added rectifier with
> app 5 to 7 plates. The new stills will add a lot more of tasty, oily
> components.
>
> There are a few other 'interesting' additions. A very long fermentation
> period up to a week. A low ABV of the beer in comparison to Scotland, no
> Sour Mash or double yeast (brewer, baker) speed up of the fermentation but
> an addition of cleaned air to the wort to power up the yeast.
>
> There are also cooled fermentation tanks. They look like the ones I saw at
> Madeira. But there they were used for heating the Madeira up. At Slyrs they
> use it for cooling the wash down. It can be pretty hot in the Alps (in
> summer).
>
> And there is a lot more. The lauter tun and the use of hot water is
> completely different to Scotland. The use just one water and heat it twice
> up during the mashing period. Ok, the resting times are there also. But you
> need it for the enzymes to start its work.
>
> Lots of questions and no answers so far ...
>
> We have to wait a few years to see the new spirit develop.
>
> Regards,
> Horst
>
> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: mm-malts-l-bounces at grsnet.net
> [mailto:mm-malts-l-bounces at grsnet.net]Im Auftrag von Kraaijeveld A.R.
> Gesendet: Dienstag, 31. Juli 2007 09:41
> An: MaltManiacs operated former 'MALT-L' Whisky List
> Betreff: [MM-MALTS-L] RE: Slyrs
>
>
> Thanks for clearing that up Horst! So that brings us, once again, to the
> issue of what constitutes 'a distillery'. Are the previous Slyrs bottlings
> and those that will contain the whisky from these new stills to be regarded
> as coming from the same distillery? If we consider Glenburgie and Glencraig
> to be different distilleries, then certainly Slyrs-from-Lantenhammer and
> Slyrs-from-Slyrs come from different distilleries. Right?
>
>
> slainte, Lex
>
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> Fly, you greatest fool
> Why can't you say what they want you to
> Why can't you do what they taught you
> And show what they wanted of you
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> Dr Alex R Kraaijeveld
> School of Biological Sciences
> University of Southampton
> Bassett Crescent East
> Southampton
> SO16 7PX
> United Kingdom
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> fax: (+44)-(0)23-80594459
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Horst Luening [mailto:luening at dr-luening.de]
> Sent: 30 July 2007 13:38
> To: Kraaijeveld A.R.
> Subject: Slyrs
>
> Hi Lex,
>
> the former Slyrs came from an eau de vie still, which was and is still used
> for the production of the famous Lantenhammer fruit spirits. Slyrs is owned
> by the company Lantenhammer.
> http://www.lantenhammer.de/
>
> Regards,
> Horst
>
> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: Kraaijeveld A.R. [mailto:A.R.Kraaijeveld at soton.ac.uk]
> Gesendet: Montag, 30. Juli 2007 14:07
> An: luening at dr-luening.de; MaltManiacs operated former 'MALT-L' Whisky
> List
> Betreff: RE: [MM-MALTS-L] pictures of Norfolk distillery
>
>
> Hi Horst
>
> If Slyrs went into production two weeks ago, then where does the whisky come
> from in the bottle of Slyrs I had a few years ago? Or are there two Slyrs
> distilleries now?
>
>
> slainte, Lex
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
> Fly, you greatest fool
> Why can't you say what they want you to
> Why can't you do what they taught you
> And show what they wanted of you
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
> Dr Alex R Kraaijeveld
> School of Biological Sciences
> University of Southampton
> Bassett Crescent East
> Southampton
> SO16 7PX
> United Kingdom
> tel: (+44)-(0)23-80593436
> fax: (+44)-(0)23-80594459
> http://www.sbs.soton.ac.uk/staff/ark/ark.php
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: mm-malts-l-bounces at grsnet.net on behalf of Horst Luening
> Sent: Mon 30/07/2007 10:57
> To: MaltManiacs operated former 'MALT-L' Whisky List
> Subject: AW: [MM-MALTS-L] pictures of Norfolk distillery
>
> Hi,
>
> the Bavarian Malt Whisky distillery Slyrs went into production two weeks
> ago.
>
> Here are the first pictures. Please click on the buttons below the German
> flag below the first picture.
> http://www.thewhiskystore.de/internat/slyrs/slyrs.htm
>
> 'Brennblasen' shows the stills.
>
> Regards,
> Horst
>   -----Ursprungliche Nachricht-----
>   Von: mm-malts-l-bounces at grsnet.net
> [mailto:mm-malts-l-bounces at grsnet.net]Im Auftrag von Kraaijeveld A.R.
>   Gesendet: Montag, 30. Juli 2007 11:25
>   An: MaltManiacs operated former 'MALT-L' Whisky List
>   Betreff: [MM-MALTS-L] pictures of Norfolk distillery
>
>
>   including a few with Iain:
> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/norfolk/6919503.stm
>
>
>
>
>
>   slainte, Lex
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>   ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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>
>   Fly, you greatest fool
>   Why can't you say what they want you to
>   Why can't you do what they taught you
>   And show what they wanted of you
>
>   ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
>
>
>   Dr Alex R Kraaijeveld
>
>   School of Biological Sciences
>
>   University of Southampton
>
>   Bassett Crescent East
>
>   Southampton
>
>   SO16 7PX
>
>   United Kingdom
>
>   tel: (+44)-(0)23-80593436
>
>   fax: (+44)-(0)23-80594459
>
>   http://www.sbs.soton.ac.uk/staff/ark/ark.php
>
>
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