AW: [MM-MALTS-L] Save Johnnie Walker Whisky/advert

Fri Aug 14 08:04:35 CEST 2009

Hello!

It was quite clear that I will receive harsh critics about my thoughts. And
you are right, one has to overstate things to make them clear.

Volkswagen! Good point. They lost a lot of sales like JW may have (I do not
know the exact figures). And there are a lot of countries, which force VW to
built assembly plants outside Germany. We even have to reimport VWs built
e.g. in the US or Mexico into Germany. What is Diageo planning else? We have
4m workless here in Germany and reimport VWs into our country? We reached
this status already. What are you planning in the UK? Employing firemen on
electrical locomotives?

I do not think that I am too cynical. The SWA had complained several times
about worse and worse legislation. And the people have not opposed
legislation but reelected the non-whisky folks into the parliaments. The
same is true in Germany. I am earning a living out of whisky and we also
see, that all odds stand against our branch. My job will be gone in 10 to 15
years. What shall we as a very small company do? Can we protest against a
big company? Are we able to protest against legislation? No, we can only
react. My family and I will no longer invest bigger sums in any alcohol
related business located in Europe. The spirits/whisky-workforce will reduce
more and more in the future and not only the individual but also the
administration has to look for replacement jobs.

That's it. It is not cynismn but reality. Bankers are helped, but whisky
producers not.

Regards,
Horst

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[mailto:mm-malts-l-bounces at grsnet.net]Im Auftrag von Craig Daniels
Gesendet: Freitag, 14. August 2009 03:23
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Hi Iain

Horst's not so little rant reveals that he thinks that corporations are our
new Gods and Diageo executives are the high priests.

I comfort myself with the thought that Diageo should be likened to the
Marketing Division of the Sirius Cybernetics Corporation, for those who like
their Douglas Adams.

I wish the very best to the good citizens of Kilmarnock in their campaign.

Craig Daniels
Chairperson
Malt Whisky Society of Australia Inc
www.mwsoa.org.au

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From: mm-malts-l-bounces at grsnet.net [mailto:mm-malts-l-bounces at grsnet.net]
On Behalf Of Iain Russell
Sent: Friday, 14 August 2009 5:36 AM
To: MaltManiacs operated former 'MALT-L' Whisky List
Subject: Re: [MM-MALTS-L] Save Johnnie Walker Whisky/advert

Geez, that's quite a rant Horst.

re: "Finally people stopped drinking".  Have people stopped drinking Scotch
in greater numbers than those that have stopped drinking drinking vodka, gin

etc during this recession?

And I'll remember your thoughts on the iniquities of bottling in Scotland
next time I see a Volkswagen or another make of imported car that has been
designed and built abroad.

Why should we work hard abroad and pay for Volkswagen's assembly costs in
Germany which could increase our own nation balance sheet? Is this fair??
;)

----- Original Message -----
From: "Horst Luening" <luening at dr-luening.de>
To: "MaltManiacs operated former 'MALT-L' Whisky List"
<mm-malts-l at grsnet.net>
Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2009 1:45 PM
Subject: [MM-MALTS-L] Save Johnnie Walker Whisky/advert

> Hi!
>
> I have some strange thoughts about this Kilmarnock thing. And - please
> note - that I am *not* living in Scotland or in the UK.
>
> Uk administration did not help the industry. In contrast, they are
> throwing
> 'sticks at their legs' as we are saying here in Germany. They forced the
> industry to place expensive duty stamps on the bottles. Even knowing, that
> this will not help tax fraud. Italy can tell something about this. But
> this
> were additional costs for the industry.
>
> Next thing was the rise of the alc. tax. Then all whisky plants, without a
> single fire in the last decades, were classified as chemical plants and
> needed a lot of additional safty equipment. Not to mention all the fine
> dust
> impact on the energy bill. All this resulted in additional costs.
>
> And what happened? Finally people stopped drinking. And they began their
> reduction with the relatively high priced well branded whisky names.
> Johnnie
> Walker is one of them. Whyte & Mackay also announced a cut of 15% in
> workforce.
>
> The only chance for Diageo to get the boat floating again is selling more
> abroad. And you have to divide money with the receiving nations. Otherwise
> the will not buy. Why should we work hard abroad and pay for bottling
> costs
> which could increase our own nation balance sheet? Is this fair? We risk
> our
> livers and the money should go in total to other people?
>
> Sorry. I am not able to understand this. The real mess is, that neither
> the
> town of Kilmarnock has looked for diversification in the past nor did the
> governments in Edingburgh and London have. If you start messing around
> with
> laws you have to look further if you are able to afford the consequences.
> And nobody can say, that Diageo and the others have not opposed all
> government actions one after each other. Now the bath tub is empty. Sorry,
> everybody in Great britain should have known better.
>
> Kind regards from abroad.
>
> Horst
>
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