[MM-MALTS-L] RE: MM-MALTS-L Digest, Vol 27, Issue 20

Jean Geebelen bull at skynet.be
Tue Jun 23 18:59:18 CEST 2009


Yes

Greetings

Jean Geebelen

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   1. Re: List Administrator Query (Konstantin Grigoriadis)
   2. Re: List Administrator Query (Paul Dejong)
   3. Re: List Administrator Query (Oliver M?hlmann)


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Message: 1
Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2009 16:03:47 +0200
From: "Konstantin Grigoriadis" <konstgrs at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [MM-MALTS-L] List Administrator Query
To: "MaltManiacs operated former 'MALT-L' Whisky List"
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Hi Tomas,

you can find the archived MALTS-L mails from Oct 1995 to now at :
http://lists.grsnet.net/pipermail/mm-malts-l/

Cheers,
Konstantin

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Tomas Ahl" <pbn at lysator.liu.se>
To: "MaltManiacs operated former 'MALT-L' Whisky List"
<mm-malts-l at grsnet.net>
Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2009 3:15 PM
Subject: Re: [MM-MALTS-L] List Administrator Query


> Me pretty much being only a lowly lurker on the list for ages. Still, 
> I'd very much miss it if it would be shut down!
> 
> And still I was one of the yes-voters way back when John Buttler queried 
> about launching the very original MALTS-L on one of the University of 
> Edinburgh servers back in the day. Sadly I have lost all the emails from 
> that time, I miss them sorely. (When nostalgia sets in it isn't really 
> the same to download them again from the archives...)
> 
> All the best to all of You MALTS-L'ers,
> 
> Tomas
> 
> Konstantin Grigoriadis wrote:
>> Hi Davin,
>>
>> the Archives are no problem to be saved !
>> I dont have a problem to leave this Service alive, if wanted, I only 
>> want to know if people are still interested in the list, or if the 
>> twittermania has taken over :-)
>>
>> Till now, i got exactly 2 answers on my question/Query, from Lex and 
>> you.......
>>
>> So, I hope that more participants of this list will give me a Yes or 
>> No :-)
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Konstantin
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Davin de Kergommeaux" 
>> <maltmaniacsdavin at gmail.com>
>> To: "MaltManiacs operated former 'MALT-L' Whisky List" 
>> <mm-malts-l at grsnet.net>
>> Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2009 3:00 AM
>> Subject: Re: [MM-MALTS-L] List Administrator Query
>>
>>
>>> Hi Konstantin,
>>>
>>> Your efforts to save Malts-L are very very much appreciated.  Thank
>>> you.  If the list's not being used, is there a way to save the
>>> archive?
>>>
>>> Davin
>>>
>>>
>>> On 6/22/09, Kraaijeveld A.R. <A.R.Kraaijeveld at soton.ac.uk> wrote:
>>>> I'd be very sorry to see Malts-L come to an end, but as you say, 
>>>> usage is low, and has been low for quite a while ....
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>  ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>>>
>>>>  Fly, you greatest fool
>>>>  Why can't you say what they want you to
>>>>  Why can't you do what they taught you
>>>>  And show what they wanted of you
>>>>
>>>>  ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>>>
>>>>  Rivers of milk are running dry
>>>>  Can't you hear the dolphins crying?
>>>>
>>>>  ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>>>
>>>>  Dr Alex R Kraaijeveld
>>>>  Lecturer in Ecology & Evolution
>>>>  School of Biological Sciences
>>>>  University of Southampton
>>>>  Building 62, Room 6031, Boldrewood Campus
>>>>  Southampton SO16 7PX
>>>>  Tel: +44(0)23 80593436
>>>>  Fax: +44(0)23 80594459
>>>>  Email: arkraa at soton.ac.uk
>>>>  Website: www.sbs.soton.ac.uk/staff/ark/ark.php
>>>>  School Website: www.southampton.ac.uk/biosci
>>>>
>>>>  ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>  ________________________________________
>>>>  From: mm-malts-l-bounces at grsnet.net [mm-malts-l-bounces at grsnet.net] 
>>>> On Behalf Of Konstantin Grigoriadis [konstgrs at gmail.com]
>>>>  Sent: 22 June 2009 19:56
>>>>
>>>> To: MaltManiacs operated former 'MALT-L' Whisky List
>>>>
>>>> Subject: [MM-MALTS-L] List Administrator Query
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>  Hello to all,
>>>>
>>>>  I would like to know if you are still interested in the MM-Malts-L 
>>>> list, cause the usage is very low.
>>>>  I am hosting the List Server for that List, if nobody needs/wants 
>>>> it anymore please let me know, to
>>>>  shutdown the list server.
>>>>
>>>>  Please let me know if you want me to keep this Service alive !
>>>>
>>>>  Cheers,
>>>>  Konstantin
>>>>  MaltManiacs
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>  ----- Original Message -----
>>>>  From: "Robert Karlsson" <rob.karlsson at gmail.com>
>>>>  To: "MaltManiacs operated former 'MALT-L' Whisky List" 
>>>> <mm-malts-l at grsnet.net>
>>>>  Sent: Monday, June 22, 2009 8:49 PM
>>>>  Subject: Re: [MM-MALTS-L] Anybody out there?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>  I haven't moved anywhere, still here :)
>>>>
>>>>  cheers, Robert
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>  On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 5:58 PM, Eric Kaelen<eric at guldenhoeck.nl> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>  > Hello, all you whiskylovers,
>>>>  > I was wondering wether the LIST is still active?
>>>>  > Or has everybody moved elsewhere.
>>>>  > Please let me know where to find you all.
>>>>  > Kind regards
>>>>  > Eric
>>>>  >
>>>>  > Slijterij " De Gulden Hoeck"
>>>>  > Rijksweg 11
>>>>  > 6271 AB GULPEN
>>>>  > Tel: +31(0)43 450 1351
>>>>  > Fax: +31(0)43 450 4179
>>>>  > Eric Kaelen
>>>>  > www.guldenhoeck.nl
>>>>  >
>>>>  >
>>>>  >
>>>>  >
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Message: 2
Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2009 16:04:32 +0200
From: Paul Dejong <Paul_Dejong at telenet.be>
Subject: Re: [MM-MALTS-L] List Administrator Query
To: malts-L MM <mm-malts-l at grsnet.net>
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On 23-06-2009 15:17, "Konstantin Grigoriadis" <konstgrs at gmail.com> wrote:

what example No2, what do you mean ?


Examples of knowledge!
Ex .1) Luc knows the 105 is from 1968
Ex .2) Dominiek elaborates on how the 40yo 
1059 is brought out to
commemorate that fact!

Nowhere else would this be so easily explained!

;-)

Paul

On 23-06-2009 15:17, "Konstantin Grigoriadis" <konstgrs at gmail.com> wrote:

> what example No2, what do you mean ?
>  
>>  
>> ----- Original Message -----
>>  
>> From:  Paul  Dejong <mailto:Paul_Dejong at telenet.be>
>>  
>> To: malts-L MM <mailto:mm-malts-l at grsnet.net>
>>  
>> Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2009 2:54 PM
>>  
>> Subject: Re: [MM-MALTS-L] List  Administrator Query
>>  
>> 
>> Hi Dominiek,
>> 
>> Like you point out, I could/should  have known that! However, to my own
>> defense I should remark that I have never  been that interested in the
>> history / provenance  of different  bottles...I am no
collectable-collector,
>> but a drinking fellow, as you very  well know! ;-)
>> But thanks for the enlightnement (?) anyway!   ;-)
>> 
>> See, example nr. 2! Konstantin!
>> 
>> Paul 
>> 
>> On  23-06-2009 14:31, "Dominiek Bouckaert (LWS)"
>> <dominiek.bouckaert at lindores.be> wrote:
>> 
>>  
>>> Lurking for years, so please, Konstantin, be the  host everyone wants
you to
>>> be :-).
>>> 
>>> Paul, the 40yo 105 was a sort of a  hint. As I recall it was bottle to
>>> commemorate the 40th anniversary of the  105.
>>> 
>>> Greetz,
>>> Dominiek
>>> 
>>> 2009/6/23 Paul Dejong  <Paul_Dejong at telenet.be>
>>>  
>>>> There you have it...
>>>> I don9t even qualify for a  
near miss9 here!  ;-)
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks Luc,  I knew you9d  know!
>>>> See, this is the perfect example of the kind of knowledge  available
here!!
>>>> I doubt very much you would get an correct answer,  this fast, anywhere
>>>> else!
>>>> 
>>>> Paul
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On 23-06-2009 12:50, "Luc  Timmermans (LWS)"
<luc.timmermans at lindores.be>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>  
>>>>> hi,
>>>>> 
>>>>> The first Glenfarclas 105 was  released in 1968.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>> Luc
>>>>> 
>>>>> 2009/6/23 Paul  Dejong <Paul_Dejong at telenet.be>
>>>>>  
>>>>>> Hey Peter, and everybody else...
>>>>>> Yes I  agree with the majority of the old warhorses on here: Let it
>>>>>> remain
>>>>>> the parent of all...even if it is rarely used.
>>>>>> It is  still a very valuable knowledge-base  to me, and even if we do
>>>>>> not
>>>>>> post so often, that does not mean it is forgotten.
>>>>>> I still  would rather ask a question that I have here, then  anywhere
>>>>>> else...thing is, not as many questions arise these days  anymore. A
>>>>>> direct
>>>>>> consequence of the enthousiasm and knowledge once  instilled with the
>>>>>> help of
>>>>>> this list! Let it live and  prosper!
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> To Peter,
>>>>>> I am pretty sure the 105 was around  before 1993...If memory serves
me (a
>>>>>> bit
>>>>>> less then it used to!)   I first bought one in 1991...and I guess
they
>>>>>> were
>>>>>> available  from the mid-eighties onwards...
>>>>>> Luc Timmermans 'mr. Glenfarclas'  may know the exact period of
>>>>>> introduction
>>>>>> better, Luc??
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Paul
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 23-06-2009 09:31, "Peter  Wood" <st.peter at paradise.net.nz> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> >> And who  else is as knowledgeablre as this list?
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > Ralph you  drunken bum - it is spelt knowlegdreabel
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > I was a  prolific (wearily so to many I'm sure) contributor to the
old
>>>>>>> >  Malts-L and have been very remiss in not contributing to the
current
>>>>>>> > apparition (?). Be that as it may, Benhard's points -  repeated
below
>>>>>>> - are
>>>>>>> > valid for me:
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > 1. It is  nice nostalgia.
>>>>>>> > 2. It is the father (or and mother) of all  this modern things.
>>>>>>> > 3. It will regain popularitiy as a niche,  not to be used by every
>>>>>>> moron
>>>>>>> > that can klick with a  mouse.
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > Yeah - let it be so.
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > And as I  have a large drachma of something very tasty in my (nah,
>>>>>>> can't  be
>>>>>>> > - the only Greek thingie I have in the house is a sponge  bought
on
>>>>>>> Piraeus
>>>>>>> > wharf in 1967) hand I shall revert to  matters more consequential.
>>>>>>> > Glenfarclas 105. I hang my head in  shame - all these years I have
>>>>>>> been
>>>>>>> > snootily avoiding the  stuff as mass market kitsch and finally I
>>>>>>> bottle the
>>>>>>> > stuff -  it's bloody lovely. When did it first appear? Charlie Mac
has
>>>>>>> it  in
>>>>>>> > his 1993 volume (you there Charles? can you confirm a prior
>>>>>>> apparition?).
>>>>>>> > It is a real sweety speyside slurper with abv  boots on.
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > And on a slightly controversial note,  Glenfarclas can claim the
>>>>>>> record as
>>>>>>> > the malt with the highest  NaCl content of any - far from the tide
>>>>>>> tho' it
>>>>>>> > may  be.
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > May the current list prosper.
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >  Peter Wood
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >  _______________________________________________
>>>>>>> > MM-MALTS-L  mailing list
>>>>>>> > MM-MALTS-L at grsnet.net
>>>>>>> > http://lists.grsnet.net/mailman/listinfo/mm-malts-l
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
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>>>>> 
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Message: 3
Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2009 16:30:40 +0200
From: Oliver M?hlmann <o.muehlmann at stendel-gmbh.de>
Subject: Re: [MM-MALTS-L] List Administrator Query
To: MaltManiacs operated former 'MALT-L' Whisky List
	<mm-malts-l at grsnet.net>
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Hi Konstantin,

good news! Keep on listin4

Slainte und Stvsschen
Oliver


Konstantin Grigoriadis schrieb:
> Hi Lex, all
>  
> No Problem, I will keep the Listerserver and the List Active.
> Just wanted to know if there still interest on that list, at times of 
> Twitter and others...
>  
>  So, The list will stay Online !
>  
> Cheers,
> Konstantin
>  
>  
>
>     ----- Original Message -----
>     *From:* Kraaijeveld A.R. <mailto:A.R.Kraaijeveld at soton.ac.uk>
>     *To:* MaltManiacs operated former 'MALT-L' Whisky List
>     <mailto:mm-malts-l at grsnet.net>
>     *Sent:* Tuesday, June 23, 2009 2:59 PM
>     *Subject:* RE: [MM-MALTS-L] List Administrator Query
>
>     Konstantin, do you think you've got enough 'yes' messages now to
>     keep the list active, even though usage is low? Especially for
>     those who've been part of it for many years, just knowing it's
>     there to get in touch with a bunch of old friends at the click of
>     a mouse is a good thing.
>
>      
>
>      
>
>      
>
>      
>
>     //~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~//////
>
>
>     //Fly, you greatest fool///
>     //Why can't you say what they want you to//
>     //Why can't you do what they taught you//
>     //And show what they wanted of you      //
>     //       //
>     //~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~///
>
>     // //
>
>     //Rivers of milk are running dry//
>
>     //Can't you hear the dolphins crying?//
>
>     // //
>
>     //~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~//
>
>      
>
>     Dr Alex R Kraaijeveld
>
>     Lecturer in Ecology & Evolution
>
>     School of Biological Sciences
>
>     University of Southampton
>
>     Building 62, Room 6031, Boldrewood Campus
>
>     Southampton SO16 7PX
>
>     Tel: +44(0)23 80593436
>
>     Fax: +44(0)23 80594459
>
>     Email: arkraa at soton.ac.uk <mailto:arkraa at soton.ac.uk>
>
>     Website: www.sbs.soton.ac.uk/staff/ark/ark.php
>     <http://www.sbs.soton.ac.uk/staff/ark/ark.php>
>
>     School Website: _www.southampton.ac.uk/biosci
>     <http://www.southampton.ac.uk/biosci>_
>
>      
>
>     ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
>      
>
>
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>     *From:* mm-malts-l-bounces at grsnet.net
>     [mailto:mm-malts-l-bounces at grsnet.net] *On Behalf Of *Paul Dejong
>     *Sent:* 23 June 2009 13:54
>     *To:* malts-L MM
>     *Subject:* Re: [MM-MALTS-L] List Administrator Query
>
>      
>
>     Hi Dominiek,
>
>     Like you point out, I could/should have known that! However, to my
>     own defense I should remark that I have never been that interested
>     in the history / provenance  of different bottles...I am no
>     collectable-collector, but a drinking fellow, as you very well
>     know! ;-)
>     But thanks for the enlightnement (?) anyway!  ;-)
>
>     See, example nr. 2! Konstantin!
>
>     Paul
>
>     On 23-06-2009 14:31, "Dominiek Bouckaert (LWS)"
>     <dominiek.bouckaert at lindores.be> wrote:
>
>     Lurking for years, so please, Konstantin, be the host everyone
>     wants you to be :-).
>
>     Paul, the 40yo 105 was a sort of a hint. As I recall it was bottle
>     to commemorate the 40th anniversary of the 105.
>
>     Greetz,
>     Dominiek
>
>     2009/6/23 Paul Dejong <Paul_Dejong at telenet.be>
>
>     There you have it...
>     I don't even qualify for a 'near miss' here!  ;-)
>
>     Thanks Luc,  I knew you'd know!
>     See, this is the perfect example of the kind of knowledge
>     available here!!
>     I doubt very much you would get an correct answer, this fast,
>     anywhere else!
>
>     Paul
>
>
>     On 23-06-2009 12:50, "Luc Timmermans (LWS)"
>     <luc.timmermans at lindores.be> wrote:
>
>     hi,
>
>     The first Glenfarclas 105 was released in 1968.
>
>     Best regards,
>     Luc
>
>     2009/6/23 Paul Dejong <Paul_Dejong at telenet.be>
>
>     Hey Peter, and everybody else...
>     Yes I agree with the majority of the old warhorses on here: Let it
>     remain
>     the parent of all...even if it is rarely used.
>     It is still a very valuable knowledge-base  to me, and even if we
>     do not
>     post so often, that does not mean it is forgotten.
>     I still would rather ask a question that I have here, then anywhere
>     else...thing is, not as many questions arise these days anymore. A
>     direct
>     consequence of the enthousiasm and knowledge once instilled with
>     the help of
>     this list! Let it live and prosper!
>
>     To Peter,
>     I am pretty sure the 105 was around before 1993...If memory serves
>     me (a bit
>     less then it used to!)  I first bought one in 1991...and I guess
>     they were
>     available from the mid-eighties onwards...
>     Luc Timmermans 'mr. Glenfarclas' may know the exact period of
>     introduction
>     better, Luc??
>
>
>     Paul
>
>     On 23-06-2009 09:31, "Peter Wood" <st.peter at paradise.net.nz> wrote:
>
>     >> And who else is as knowledgeablre as this list?
>     >
>     > Ralph you drunken bum - it is spelt knowlegdreabel
>     >
>     > I was a prolific (wearily so to many I'm sure) contributor to the
old
>     > Malts-L and have been very remiss in not contributing to the current
>     > apparition (?). Be that as it may, Benhard's points - repeated
>     below - are
>     > valid for me:
>     >
>     > 1. It is nice nostalgia.
>     > 2. It is the father (or and mother) of all this modern things.
>     > 3. It will regain popularitiy as a niche, not to be used by every
>     moron
>     > that can klick with a mouse.
>     >
>     > Yeah - let it be so.
>     >
>     > And as I have a large drachma of something very tasty in my (nah,
>     can't be
>     > - the only Greek thingie I have in the house is a sponge bought
>     on Piraeus
>     > wharf in 1967) hand I shall revert to matters more consequential.
>     > Glenfarclas 105. I hang my head in shame - all these years I have
>     been
>     > snootily avoiding the stuff as mass market kitsch and finally I
>     bottle the
>     > stuff - it's bloody lovely. When did it first appear? Charlie Mac
>     has it in
>     > his 1993 volume (you there Charles? can you confirm a prior
>     apparition?).
>     > It is a real sweety speyside slurper with abv boots on.
>     >
>     > And on a slightly controversial note, Glenfarclas can claim the
>     record as
>     > the malt with the highest NaCl content of any - far from the tide
>     tho' it
>     > may be.
>     >
>     > May the current list prosper.
>     >
>     > Peter Wood
>     >
>     >
>     > _______________________________________________
>     > MM-MALTS-L mailing list
>     > MM-MALTS-L at grsnet.net
>     > http://lists.grsnet.net/mailman/listinfo/mm-malts-l
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