[MM-MALTS-L] buying a cask

Davin de Kergommeaux maltmaniacsdavin at gmail.com
Fri Nov 6 13:23:40 CET 2009


When I hear 'pure pot' I generally think of a whisky that includes
some unmalted barley.  It is said to have a typical 'nutty' flavour.
Davin

On Fri, Nov 6, 2009 at 3:55 AM, john marrinan <john.marrinan at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Horst
> Regarding the single malt v pure pot still, that's just semantics. I think
> it's know what is meant when we say pure pot still, in the Irish sense. In
> that sense, it does mean something different to single malt. And the Scots
> do not use the term "pure pot still", as far as I'm aware. Just as "single
> malt" has come to mean something specific, "pure pot still" has come to mean
> something specific.
> What I mean is that there are hundreds of malt distilleries in the world, so
> while another one will add yet more variety, it would not at all be as
> exciting as building another distillery producing pure pot still - doubling
> the amount of distilleries producing pure pot still Irish whiskey.
> Regards
> John
>
> On Fri, Nov 6, 2009 at 8:06 AM, Horst Luening <luening at dr-luening.de> wrote:
>>
>> Hello Ron & John!
>>
>> Startup distilleries need a lot of money. It will be bound into their
>> warehouses for years to come. How to finance such big money traps?
>>
>> Going to a bank means paying a lot of interests for these years. No easy
>> thing.
>>
>> Ethusiasts like us maltheads a willing to invest into such matter. But -
>> there is always a but - you do not pay the costs for such a cask but you pay
>> the total amount upfront, what the whisky might be worth after maturation. I
>> definitely say might, because the cask might turn out to be not that good.
>> And what to do with hundreds of similar bottles? Dividing a cask is
>> preferrable from my point of view.
>>
>> If raw whisky costs 1 Euro per bottle, why are they demanding 25,78 Euro
>> (w.o. tax) in the case of Dingle? Of cause there are the costs of the cask
>> but the main reason is they want to raise as much money for their future
>> warehouse content as possible.
>>
>> I would never buy a cask myself. The risk that you end up with much more
>> costs (insurance, bottling, etc.) and the risk how the cask will mature is
>> definitely to high for me. If they would offer a liter price of 5 Euro I
>> might get tempted so.
>>
>> P.S.: Pure Pot Still vs. Single Malt
>>
>> From my point of view there is no contrast between those two. Pure Pot
>> Still means a fabrication mathod and Single Malt stands for the ingredients.
>> You are able to distill a malt mash in a pot still (as the Scots do) and you
>> might distill a mixture of several grains in those pot stills. Some
>> marketing reps want to mix or divide these things.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Horst
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