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<DIV>Hi ,</DIV>
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<DIV>well i have a few bottles of the first batches "Single Malt Seaweed Whisky"
and i like it.</DIV>
<DIV>In the Bottles i have the Malt is of darker Green Color.</DIV>
<DIV>When i first saw this Bottling offered, i bought a few cause of the effect
they have in Tastings, everybody wonders what that stuff is :-)</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>When i tasted it i liked it (88 MM Points) and yes its green in the taste
:-)</DIV>
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<DIV>Cheers,</DIV>
<DIV>Konstantin </DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, August 30, 2007 4:02
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [MM-MALTS-L] CELP &
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<DIV><BR></DIV><FONT face="Verdana, Helvetica, Arial"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12px">Hi Lex and all,<BR><BR>Celp indeed contains a
fresh-water plant called elodia, but don’t go down the path of a “conspiracy
theory”<BR>The whole thing started of more or less as a joke, and Van Wees had
no idea the thing would be so succesfull. The first batch was indeed labelled
“whisky”, but the SWA had their say about it, and they had to change it into
scottish spirit.<BR><BR>Expect it to taste like a young islay should, an islay
that is maybe a little “green” because of it’s youth. ;-)<BR>And I’m sure they
were not trying to hoodwink the customer! I think they saw it as a fun way of
riding the wave of the “finishes”!<BR><BR>My 2p,<BR>Paul<BR><BR><BR>On
30-08-2007 15:16, "Joe Barry" <jrsbar@gmail.com>
wrote:<BR><BR></SPAN></FONT>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 12px">Hi all<BR> <BR>My take on the use of C instead
of K is the marketing geniuses way of covering their backs in case they were
really accused of trying to hoodwink the
customers.<BR> <BR>Joe<BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> <BR><BR><BR> <BR>On
8/30/07, <B>Davin de Kergommeaux</B> <maltmaniacsdavin@gmail.com>
wrote: <BR></SPAN></FONT>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 12px">Yes Lex,<BR><BR>I pushed the send button too
quickly. Obviously if you as a biologist<BR>say it's elodia, it's
elodia, but the pet store owners, who are not <BR>scientists, also call it
elodia so that's the common name as well,<BR>which in my warped logic
confirms that it's not seaweed and even the<BR>man in the street knows
it.<BR><BR>Davin<BR><BR><BR>On 8/30/07, Kraaijeveld A.R.
<A.R.Kraaijeveld@soton.ac.uk> wrote:<BR>> Hi
Davin<BR>><BR>> I don't know why they chose the spelling Celp over
Kelp. And yes, that's<BR>> exactly the plant I mean.
<BR>><BR>><BR>> slainte,
Lex<BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>>
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~<BR>><BR>> Fly, you greatest
fool<BR>> Why can't you say what they want you to<BR>> Why can't you
do what they taught you <BR>> And show what they wanted of
you<BR>><BR>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~<BR>><BR>> Dr
Alex R Kraaijeveld<BR>> School of Biological Sciences<BR>>
University of Southampton<BR>> Bassett Crescent East <BR>>
Southampton<BR>> SO16 7PX<BR>> United Kingdom<BR>> tel:
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-----Original Message-----<BR>> From:
mm-malts-l-bounces@grsnet.net<BR>> [mailto:
mm-malts-l-bounces@grsnet.net <mailto:mm-malts-l-bounces@grsnet.net>
] On Behalf Of Davin de Kergommeaux<BR>> Sent: 30 August 2007
12:18<BR>> To: MaltManiacs operated former 'MALT-L' Whisky List<BR>>
Subject: Re: [MM-MALTS-L] CELP & seaweed <BR>><BR>> Hi
Lex,<BR>><BR>> Curious spelling. Kelp, the seaweed, is spelled
with a "K"<BR>><BR>> The plant in the bottle looks quite like one
you can buy at pet stores<BR>> for your fresh water aquarium - and yes,
if memory serves, I think it <BR>> is called elodia.<BR>><BR>>
Davin<BR>><BR>><BR>> On 8/30/07, Kraaijeveld A.R.
<A.R.Kraaijeveld@soton.ac.uk> wrote:<BR>> ><BR>>
><BR>> ><BR>> ><BR>> > Hi Thomas<BR>> ><BR>>
><BR>> ><BR>> > The idea behind CELP is that, allegedly, in
the old days seaweed was<BR>> added<BR>> > to whisky on the
islands for medicinal purposes. So CELP is said to <BR>>
recreate<BR>> > that old tradition. If we take that tradition as a
given, then my<BR>> problem is<BR>> > that it is strongly
suggested that the plant in the bottle is seaweed,<BR>> > whereas it
actually has nothing to do with seaweed whatsoever. So <BR>>
marketing<BR>> > trying to fool potential customers in thinking that
there really is<BR>> seaweed<BR>> > in the bottle. No doubt
tasting notes will mention the saltyness,<BR>> > seaweedyness, etc.
If there is a strong note of seaweed, it surely <BR>> can't<BR>>
> come from the plant in the bottle!<BR>> ><BR>> ><BR>>
><BR>> ><BR>> ><BR>> > slainte, Lex<BR>>
><BR>> ><BR>> ><BR>> ><BR>> > <BR>>
><BR>> ><BR>> ><BR>> >
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~<BR>> ><BR>> ><BR>> >
Fly, you greatest fool<BR>> > Why can't you say what
they want you to<BR>> > Why can't you do what they taught you
<BR>> > And show what they wanted of you<BR>> ><BR>>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~<BR>> ><BR>>
><BR>> ><BR>> > Dr Alex R Kraaijeveld<BR>> ><BR>>
> School of Biological Sciences <BR>> ><BR>> > University
of Southampton<BR>> ><BR>> > Bassett Crescent East<BR>>
><BR>> > Southampton<BR>> ><BR>> > SO16 7PX<BR>>
><BR>> > United Kingdom<BR>> > <BR>> > tel:
(+44)-(0)23-80593436<BR>> ><BR>> > fax:
(+44)-(0)23-80594459<BR>> ><BR>> > <A
href="http://www.sbs.soton.ac.uk/staff/ark/ark.php">http://www.sbs.soton.ac.uk/staff/ark/ark.php</A>
<BR>> ><BR>> ><BR>> ><BR>> >
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~<BR>> ><BR>> ><BR>>
><BR>> > ________________________________<BR>>
><BR>> ><BR>> > From: mm-malts-l-bounces@grsnet.net<BR>>
[<A
href="mailto:mm-malts-l-bounces@grsnet.net]">mailto:mm-malts-l-bounces@grsnet.net]</A><BR>>
> On Behalf Of Thomas Schubert<BR>> > Sent: 30 August 2007
11:22<BR>> > <BR>> > To: MaltManiacs operated former
'MALT-L' Whisky List<BR>> > Subject: Re: [MM-MALTS-L] CELP
& seaweed<BR>> ><BR>> ><BR>> ><BR>> ><BR>>
> Hi Lex,<BR>> ><BR>> > I'm completely lost
here.<BR>> ><BR>> > What are the consequences of using
waterweed rather than seaweed, and<BR>> why<BR>> > should one add
either to the liquid in the first place?<BR>> ><BR>> >
Thanks,<BR>> ><BR>> > Thomas<BR>> ><BR>>
><BR>> > 2007/8/30, Kraaijeveld A.R.
<A.R.Kraaijeveld@soton.ac.uk>:<BR>> ><BR>> > There are
other species of seaweed, which are not solid sheets. So I<BR>> >
guess marketing was more important than honesty in this case.
Suggest<BR>> > the bottle contains seaweed and hope no one
with a bit of botanical <BR>> > knowledge will notice that it
what's in the bottle has nothing to do<BR>> > with seaweed
....<BR>> ><BR>> ><BR>> > slainte, Lex<BR>>
><BR>> ><BR>> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
<BR>> ><BR>> > Fly, you greatest fool<BR>> >
Why can't you say what they want you to<BR>> > Why can't
you do what they taught you<BR>> > And show what they wanted
of you<BR>> > <BR>> >
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~<BR>> ><BR>> > Dr
Alex R Kraaijeveld<BR>> > School of Biological
Sciences<BR>> > University of Southampton<BR>> >
Bassett Crescent East<BR>> > Southampton <BR>> >
SO16 7PX<BR>> > United Kingdom<BR>> > tel:
(+44)-(0)23-80593436<BR>> > fax: (+44)-(0)23-80594459<BR>>
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><BR>> ><BR>> > -----Original Message-----<BR>>
> From: mm-malts-l-bounces@grsnet.net <A
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On Behalf Of Michel van<BR>> > Meersbergen<BR>> >
Sent: 30 August 2007 11:04<BR>> > To: MaltManiacs
operated former 'MALT-L' Whisky List <BR>> > Subject: Re:
[MM-MALTS-L] CELP & seaweed<BR>> ><BR>> >
Lex,<BR>> ><BR>> > I'm affraid true celp wouldn't
look as 'fancy' as whatever Elodea<BR>> they<BR>> > have
<BR>> > put into the bottle. Just a vegetal green and rubbery
'sheet'. Celp<BR>> > leaves<BR>> > can be quite
big.<BR>> ><BR>> > For sure Van Wees/Ultimate outweirded
Blackadder when it comes to <BR>> solid<BR>> > additives.
:-)<BR>> ><BR>> > Michel<BR>> ><BR>> >
P.s. No offense Rob!<BR>> ><BR>> ><BR>> > op
30-08-2007 11:52 schreef Kraaijeveld A.R. op<BR>> >
A.R.Kraaijeveld@soton.ac.uk:<BR>> ><BR>> > > Hi
Michel<BR>> > ><BR>> > > Yes, 'waterpest' is
exactly what I mean. I don't want to get into a <BR>> > >
botanical discussion as to whether it's Elodea densa or Elodea<BR>>
> > canadensis, because the two species are not always easy to
tell<BR>> apart.<BR>> > > What's important is that it
appears that "Celp - The Seaweed <BR>> > Experience"<BR>>
> > does not contain any seaweed whatsoever.<BR>> >
><BR>> > ><BR>> > > slainte,
Lex<BR>> > ><BR>> > >
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ <BR>> > ><BR>> >
> Fly, you greatest fool<BR>> > > Why can't you
say what they want you to<BR>> > > Why can't you do what
they taught you<BR>> > > And show what they wanted of you
<BR>> > ><BR>> > >
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~<BR>> > ><BR>> >
> Dr Alex R Kraaijeveld<BR>> > > School of
Biological Sciences<BR>> > > University of Southampton
<BR>> > > Bassett Crescent East<BR>> > >
Southampton<BR>> > > SO16 7PX<BR>> > >
United Kingdom<BR>> > > tel: (+44)-(0)23-80593436<BR>>
> > fax: (+44)-(0)23-80594459 <BR>> > > <A
href="http://www.sbs.soton.ac.uk/staff/ark/ark.php">http://www.sbs.soton.ac.uk/staff/ark/ark.php</A><BR>>
> ><BR>> > >
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~<BR>> > ><BR>> >
> <BR>> > > -----Original Message-----<BR>>
> > From: mm-malts-l-bounces@grsnet.net<BR>> >
> [mailto: mm-malts-l-bounces@grsnet.net
<mailto:mm-malts-l-bounces@grsnet.net> ] On Behalf Of Michel
van<BR>> > > Meersbergen<BR>> > > Sent: 30
August 2007 09:51<BR>> > > To: MaltManiacs operated former
'MALT-L' Whisky List<BR>> > > Subject: Re: [MM-MALTS-L]
CELP & seaweed <BR>> > ><BR>> > > Hi
Lex,<BR>> > ><BR>> > > I had the same
reservations when I saw the bottle for the first<BR>> time.<BR>>
> > It's<BR>> > > certainly not celp inside the
bottle, I have it as Elodea <BR>> canadensis<BR>> > >
('waterpest' as we say in Holland).<BR>> > ><BR>> >
> AFAIK all the celp bottles have waterweed inside them.<BR>>
> ><BR>> > > Best!<BR>> >
><BR>> > > Michel<BR>> > ><BR>>
> ><BR>> > ><BR>> > > op
30-08-2007 10:31 schreef Kraaijeveld A.R. op<BR>> > >
A.R.Kraaijeveld@soton.ac.uk:<BR>> > ><BR>> >
>> Hi all<BR>> > >><BR>> >
>><BR>> > >><BR>> > >> I
got a bottle of "CELP - Seaweed Experience" for a tasting I'll <BR>>
be<BR>> > >> running at the university later this year.
For those who have<BR>> never<BR>> > >> heard of this
one, it's either a young Lagavulin or a vatting of<BR>> >
>> Lagavulin and Laphroaig to which seaweed is added. So
legally it's <BR>> > not<BR>> > >> whisky
anymore and the label doesn't claim that it is.<BR>> >
>><BR>> > >><BR>> >
>><BR>> > >> The spirit is clearly greenish
and there is a twig of a plant <BR>> > floating<BR>> >
>> in the bottle (bottle won't be opened until the tasting).
Now as<BR>> soon<BR>> > > as<BR>> > >>
I saw the twig, I got suspicious. To me, the plant which is <BR>>
floating<BR>> > > in<BR>> > >> the bottle
looks remarkably like Common or Brazilian Waterweed,<BR>> which<BR>>
> > is<BR>> > >> a very common freshwater
plant. Does not grow in the sea and is <BR>> not a<BR>> >
>> seaweed by any stretch of the (botanical) imagination.
I've<BR>> attached<BR>> > a<BR>> > >>
small picture of this plant and I'm asking those of you who <BR>>
have/had<BR>> > a<BR>> > >> bottle of CELP
to tell me whether the plant inside the bottle<BR>> looks<BR>> >
> like<BR>> > >> the plant in the picture. Just
so I know whether all CELP bottles <BR>> > >> contain
waterweed rather than a seaweed or whether there ARE<BR>>
indeed<BR>> > > CELP<BR>> > >> bottles
with (possible) seaweed.<BR>> > >><BR>> >
>> <BR>> > >><BR>> >
>><BR>> > >><BR>> > >>
slainte, Lex<BR>> > >><BR>> >
>><BR>> > >><BR>> >
>><BR>> > >><BR>> >
>><BR>> > >><BR>> >
>><BR>> > >><BR>> > >>
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~<BR>> > >><BR>> >
>><BR>> > >> Fly, you greatest fool <BR>>
> >> Why can't you say what they want you to<BR>> >
>> Why can't you do what they taught you<BR>> >
>> And show what they wanted of you<BR>> >
>><BR>> > >>
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ <BR>> > >><BR>> >
>><BR>> > >><BR>> > >> Dr
Alex R Kraaijeveld<BR>> > >><BR>> > >>
School of Biological Sciences<BR>> > >><BR>> >
>> University of Southampton <BR>> >
>><BR>> > >> Bassett Crescent East<BR>>
> >><BR>> > >> Southampton<BR>> >
>><BR>> > >> SO16 7PX<BR>> >
>><BR>> > >> United Kingdom <BR>> >
>><BR>> > >> tel:
(+44)-(0)23-80593436<BR>> > >><BR>> >
>> fax: (+44)-(0)23-80594459<BR>> >
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